Log in or Sign up. SG Guitars. Joined: Jan 13, Messages: 2, Likes Received: 3, Joined: Jun 29, Messages: 1, Likes Received: 1, Probably hasn't been updated since Gibson changed their serial numbers in That year I bought an SG with a serial beginning This also worked for the old numbering system, where the year would've been show as 1xxx That did puzzle me, as I couldn't find an explanation anywhere :.
SG standardMay 11, Inthe 8-digit serial number system was implemented and you simply look at the 1st and 5th digits to determine the year. Ina 9th digit was added. The above method still works up until If 9 digits exist, look at the second digit.
There have been 6 different serial number styles used to date on Gibson instruments. The first serialization started in and ran until The serial numbers started with number and go to All numbers are approximates. In most cases, only the upper end instruments were assigned identification numbers. YEAR LAST YEAR LAST White oval labels were used on instruments from toat which time the oval label was changed to an orange color.
On instruments with round soundholes, this label is visible directly below it. On f-hole instruments, it is visible through the upper f-hole. The second type of serial numbers used started with an A prefix and ran from to The first number is A Though not used on the earliest instruments produced those done ina few of these instruments have 3 digits stamped on the headstock top.
Some time ininstruments were ink stamped on the headstock back with 5 or 6 digit numbers, the first indicating the year, the following numbers are production numbers. The production numbers run in a consecutive order and, aside from a few oddities in the change over yearsit is fairly accurate to use them when identifying solid body instruments produced between and It consisted of numbers that are impressed into the wood.
It is also generally known to be the most frustrating and hard to understand system that Gibson has employed. The numbers were used between the years There are several instances where batches of numbers are switched in order, duplicated, not just once, but up to four times, and seem to be randomly assigned, throughout the decade.
All numbers were impressed into the wood and a six digit number assigned, though no particular order was given and some instruments had a letter prefix. The orange labels inside hollow bodied instruments was discontinued in and were replaced by white and orange rectangle labels on the acoustics, and small black, purple and white rectangle labels were placed on electric models.
A few bolt on neck instruments had a date ink stamped on the heel area. InGibson first introduced the serialization method that is in practice today.
This updated system utilizes an impressed eight digit numbering scheme that covers both serializing and dating functions. The numbers show Kalamazoo production, show Nashville production. The Kalamazoo numbers were discontinued in Bozeman instruments began using designations and, inNashville instruments began using designations.Factory Order Numbers with a Letter, to Remember, the batch number is the first 4 digits of the FON, followed by a 1 or 2 digit sequence number within the batch.
This letter should be before the FON batch number. This was used on archtop models ink stamped inside treble F-hole and on flat top models ink stamped on the neck blockfrom to Gibson Serial Numbers, Feb to All models, stamped in back top of peghead. Note many serial numbers are duplicated from In these cases, to figure out which is the exact year for a guitar, see the General Specs section for more details.
ALSO note: It is easy to confuse 5 digit and 6 digit serial numbers from this era, and hence get the wrong year for a guitar.COME AND GET YER PHIL X FILL!! 1962 Gibson Les Paul SG Custom 01220
That is, is not the same number as but when reading the number off the back of a Gibson peghead, these two numbers do look very similar! General Vintage Gibson Guitar Information and specs. Discontinued all models except L-5 by Discontinued L-5 Fiber peghead veneer replaces "Holly" wood veneer: to present.
Also "Made in U. Peghead angle is 17 degrees: Peghead angle is 14 degrees: Peghead angle is 17 degrees: present. Thickness of peghead uniform: present.
Prior to peghead narrows in thickness towards top. Peghead Logos Pre-war Gibson script logo used before No letters drops below the other letters. Pre-war Script Gibson logo, Pearl or White. Thicker "Gibson" on Super and other high-end models: mid 's. Thicker "Gibson" all models: late 's. The post-war logo has the "G" and the "N" with a tail that drops below the other letters. Bridge, flat top models.
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Retangular bridge, most models: WW2. Martin-type belly bridge, some banner-logo examples: WW2. Upper belly bridge above bridge pins : early 's Plastic bridge, most models below SJ: Indian Rosewood used instead of Brazilian: Lower belly bridge below bridge pins : Upper belly bridge above bridge pins : present. Option on J, J, SJ: Standard on most models: Or serial number and model name on white paper label, number range from tohand inked or penciled toink stamped serial number to Serial numbers are not the only thing that will give you a year for your Gibson.
From the number is typically found on a decal on the back of the headstock. This should be an 8 digit number that can be dated by the 1st and 2nd digits as follows:. Earlier models had an ink stamped serial number or no serial number at all, these are much more difficult to date. Prior to when the Kalamazoo, MI factory was closed, the numbers indicated Kalamazoo production. Ranking numbers continued to indicate Nashville production through Ranking numbers for Bozeman start each day at and the electrics may start as low as the s.
Examples: means the instrument was produced on Jan. The first 5 numbers remain the same, the last 3 numbers will remain the same.
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The only difference is the addition of this batch indicator. The Model Year introduces a new numbering system, the model year indicated by the first 2 digits.
NOTE — Not all models have the new system. Nashville use it, Memphis may do later. Most will be 5 to 6 digits in length, but the earliest examples feature 4 digit serial numbers.
There should be a space after the 1st digit with the 4 and 5 digit serial numbers, and no space with the 6 digit numbers. The 1st and 2nd indicate the year of manufacture for the 6 digit serial numbers which have been used since Example: CS is the th reg. Guitar Dater for Gibson.
Thanks for pointing out the error. Custom Shop guitars are now made in Memphis as well as Nashville so an extra digit was added to indicate the factory. I visited the Memphis factory last year and was told about this but I forgot to update the blog. Somewhat well used, and some damage to the serial number that starts and then looks like Sunburst with a Bigsby.
Others include guitars like the ES single cutaway models. From your description of the serial and looking in the Blue Book I think the earliest it could be would bepossibly to providing that is the start of the serial number and not another number such as the FON factory order number. If you could send photos that may help, be sure to include pics of the model no.
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Corrections and additions to this section will be made as necessary. Prior to when the Kalamazoo, MI factory was closed, the numbers indicated Kalamazoo production.
Ranking numbers continued to indicate Nashville production through Ranking numbers for Bozeman start each day at and the electrics may start as low as the s. Examples: means the instrument was produced on Jan. The sixth number is now a batch number- batch 0 starts at the beginning of the day, and once we stampthe batch number will change to 1. The first 5 numbers remain the same, the last 3 numbers will remain the same. The only difference is the addition of this batch indicator.
Most will be 5 to 6 digits in length, but the earliest examples feature 4 digit serial numbers. There should be a space after the 1st digit with the 4 and 5 digit serial numbers, and no space with the 6 digit numbers.
The 1st and 2nd indicate the year of manufacture for the 6 digit serial numbers which we've been using since Gibson USA to present — These serial numbers cannot be dated to a specific day of the year.
The new model year typically launches in the fall as the current model year winds down.
It is not uncommon for a new model year model to be produced during the previous model year example — a model may have been built in late Example: 7 is the rd reissue model produced in NOTE - as of1st digit will be a "2" Examples: is the 9th carved top produced on the st day of CS Signature Models: The list below is not an exhaustive listing but we have included many of our most popular Signature models.
Please contact us at service gibson. Andy Summers ES Limited edition of Numbered in sequence as "13xxx" Jimmy Page Les Paul 3 versions -1st 25 aged models were hand numbered and signed by Jimmy Page, no other number is on this model.
Johnny A. Slash Les Paul 2 models - limited edition model, cranberry finish: numbered in sequence as "SL xxx" - Regular production model introduced inalso numbered in sequence as "SL xxx" Note: The discontinued Epiphone Slash Les Paul made has a standard Epiphone serial number. Many '80s and early '90s serial numbers may follow a similar scheme, but may not include a factory ID code. This amp was made in the second quarter of In this space I share what I have learned about my favorite subject All produced in the 's and early 's, these rare banjos were chosen by the pioneers of bluegrass music in the late 's and 's, most likely due to the volume and growling tone they produce when used with the driving, 3-finger picking style.
Ever since, the pre-war Gibson Flathead banjo has been THE axe of choice for the bluegrass banjo player.
It is my goal to provide a resource for people interested in the history of vintage banjos and also the re-creation of that desired "old" banjo tone, focusing on recordings of various banjos with different components and setups. There are numerous offerings in the marketplace today, all of which claim to be the secret to that "prewar" tone, driving the need for an objective source to sift through all of the "snake oil" and "voo-doo" and hear for yourself!
This is one of my favorites It sported it's original plectrum neck for 71 years Here are some more pics:. Additional Flathead 3 Pics. There is craftsman in the Czech Republic who is making some incredible banjos in the same format as the vintage mastertone banjos. His name is Jaroslav Prucha.
TB-1 Page. The 's weren't so bad, either The Gibson Mastertones of the 's were constructed with about the same specifications and quality levels of the 's and 's. Unfortunately, they discontinued the Flat Head Tone Ring by the end of the 40's. The archtop ring produced in the 's was the same dimension as the Pre-war version, but for some reason they drilled only 4 holes in it.
Check out the Bowtie Page:. Here is a sweet Granada Tenor from about Many eyebrows take a slight upward tilt when someone mentions the possibility of a Prewar Flathead tonering that has turned up without a banjo New Gibson serial-number database information! I have been collecting information on old Gibson banjos for about 20 yearsGibson guitar serial numbers are, like a lot of serial number systems from guitar manufacturers, a complicated beast.
But with a little bit of research you should be able to find out when your Gibson was built and in some cases where.
In some cases, in fact, only FONs were used and there was no serial number this was mainly for early low-end models. This can help determine if your guitar was from the s or s some guitars during those 2 decades had the same serial number.
You can also use other features to help identify the time period of your instrument. Some of these include:.
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During this period, the system was actually relatively simple. Guitars were just given the next available number. The chart below shows the year that relates to the serial number. The serial numbers shown represent the approximate last serial number for that year.
The first serial number for acoustic guitars was Once the serial numbers hitGibson decided to change to a new system, rather than go into 6 digits. The new system used a letter to prefix the numbers. The first guitar in this new system was A which was in April of This was pretty poorly done though IMO and meant that some serial numbers were reused so a certain serial number could be from a guitar from different years.
Thing get a little simpler. Not sure why these numbers were used, but at least it was uniform! The Kalamazoo factory operated until and guitars made in that factory from to had the last 3 digits the production number that were between and For example, the serial number — would be May 25 thand the 56 th guitar built in the Nashville factory. The first guitar built that day would have the production number Guitars built in the Nashville Factory from onwards have production numbers — so the first guitar produced that day would have the production number The Montana factory uses production numbers and this was fromwhen that factory was opened.
Or it could beor Their serial number system around that time was not great! I have a Maestro by Gibson electric that belonged to my dad. The serial number is K Any info is appreciated. Is this for real or have I been had. I have a Gibson can you tell me what year it maybe from please? CS is the serial number. Hi Nate, I have a SG and the serial number is which is between; and Is this still supposed to be or one of those which is probably but could be something else?
Many thanks! I just bought a used guitar. There is a number in back pc It ended up being made in U.